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      06-12-2021, 10:07 PM   #3411
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Sorry for the confusing question. I was referring to the dealer's angle. Would there be repercussions if they could not count for lost dope or money?
Sorry, got it. I suspect that their "associates and bosses" are likely very understanding of that sort or thing.
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If you seize money there would be reports to file, even if you didn't lay a charge. Maybe I'm missing your point though.
Sorry for the confusing question. I was referring to the dealer's angle. Would there be repercussions if they could not count for lost dope or money?
If they are connected to MS13, for example, there will most likely be repercussions.
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If they are connected to MS13, for example, there will most likely be repercussions.
Like remedial training?
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      06-12-2021, 10:13 PM   #3414
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If they are connected to MS13, for example, there will most likely be repercussions.
This is what I was getting at. Therefore they, in essence, would cull their own.
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If they are connected to MS13, for example, there will most likely be repercussions.
Like remedial training?
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      06-13-2021, 07:11 AM   #3416
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Carol from HR would like a word with the offending drug courier party
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rwheels are you asking if the drug gang would target the LEO for retribution for basically stealing drugs and money? Like a "crooked cop" that becomes known for stealing money or reselling drugs instead of performing their official duty?
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rwheels are you asking if the drug gang would target the LEO for retribution for basically stealing drugs and money? Like a "crooked cop" that becomes known for stealing money or reselling drugs instead of performing their official duty?
No. I was asking on the idea that the war on drugs could be an automatic one, if drugs and money were merely confiscated, and the dealers would "take care" of the rest.
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Two drug dealers were walking at night in the forest. One says: " It's really creepy, I'm kinda scared."

"You're scared? I have to walk back alone."


I'll get my hat.
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No. I was asking on the idea that the war on drugs could be an automatic one, if drugs and money were merely confiscated, and the dealers would "take care" of the rest.
The police catch a very, very small percentage of the drugs and illegal money on the streets. Those seizures won't even make dent in the supply/demand market.
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The police catch a very, very small percentage of the drugs and illegal money on the streets. Those seizures won't even make dent in the supply/demand market.
True enough, but if a drug supplier kills a drug dealer over lost product and nobody is there to see it.....
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Two drug dealers were walking at night in the forest. One says: " It's really creepy, I'm kinda scared."

"You're scared? I have to walk back alone."
I'd like to laugh at this, I really would, but this is hitting a little too close to home for me right now.....
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I donate every year to a local FOP lodge. I get a sticker and badge. I give the badge to my kids to play with, and put the sticker on my car. I haven't gotten pulled over in many years, but if I did and you saw the sticker would it give me an leniency with the LEO?

I may put one on my wife's car as she gets pulled over much more than me for speeding lol.
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I'd like to laugh at this, I really would, but this is hitting a little too close to home for me right now.....
Confess here: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1042672
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I donate every year to a local FOP lodge. I get a sticker and badge. I give the badge to my kids to play with, and put the sticker on my car. I haven't gotten pulled over in many years, but if I did and you saw the sticker would it give me an leniency with the LEO?

I may put one on my wife's car as she gets pulled over much more than me for speeding lol.
It would be a consideration, but attitude is the best citation negation tool. Lol!
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We went to The Pantry downtown Sunday morning, before heading over to Chavez Ravine. We waited almost an hour, with a constant "show" the mentally challenged homeless locals provided. Some where touched by God, and chanted the entire time about Yahweh, but this guy was wandering into the traffic lanes, spittle all over his face/nose.
Another kept wandering up/down the line of waiting patrons. I was constantly adjusting where my wife/SIL were standing, as I kept a front with my "FBI hands" in position. He kept tormenting the guy in front of me, kept reaching out and touching him if he turned his back. That couple waited an hour, got inside, saw that it was cash only and then left. I don't think they will be back.

I saw at least one LAPD unit drive by, no cares were given. When the buses came thru, they judiciously used their horns.

Do you think when the $2B for mental health/homeless comes down, that more of these people will be taken off the street?
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We went to The Pantry downtown Sunday morning, before heading over to Chavez Ravine. We waited almost an hour, with a constant "show" the mentally challenged homeless locals provided. Some where touched by God, and chanted the entire time about Yahweh, but this guy was wandering into the traffic lanes, spittle all over his face/nose.
Another kept wandering up/down the line of waiting patrons. I was constantly adjusting where my wife/SIL were standing, as I kept a front with my "FBI hands" in position. He kept tormenting the guy in front of me, kept reaching out and touching him if he turned his back. That couple waited an hour, got inside, saw that it was cash only and then left. I don't think they will be back.

I saw at least one LAPD unit drive by, no cares were given. When the buses came thru, they judiciously used their horns.

Do you think when the $2B for mental health/homeless comes down, that more of these people will be taken off the street?
Short answer! No! There's just nowhere to put them, plus…..the homeless don't want to be saved. I know people hate to hear that, but it's the truth. We offer to take these people to shelters and other locations so they have a roof over their heads, but they either decline or leave shortly after we take them. They prefer street living and they prefer environments with no structure. That's the reality………much like predominantly black communities will always be riddled with crime because they like it.

Speaking of the crazy…..


….Yesterday was my first day off. I stayed indoors most of the day, but decided to go to the local Porsche dealership to handle a few things. As I entered the freeway, I immediately noticed two Sheriff's patrol units on the right shoulder dealing with a 918 (..mentally insane person) who was about to jump off of the overpass. I stop traffic in #4 lane to give the deputies space to work. The 918 decides to run into the #4 lane, and then the #3 lane. I see cars passing with no regard for the deputies nor the 918, almost hitting a deputy in the process…….so I become immediately irritated. I pull my Corolla into both the #3 and #4 lanes, blocking the path, and then exit my car with badge and gun in hand right after the truck in the #3 lane decides to honk at me (…what?!? Are you going to run over deputies too?!?!….yeah, I was annoyed!!). I had to stop traffic in the #2 and #1 by badging them. FINALLY everybody stopped so the deputies could deal with the 918 without worrying about passing cars. A CHP Motor rolled up and started assisting the deputies while I held traffic; another CHP unit arrived shortly afterwards. Four law enforcers chased the 918 around on the freeway and eventually had to tackle him. It was a clusterfuck, but thankfully an OIS didn't occur. After it was all resolved, the handling deputy came up and shook my hand and thanked me for helping and asked me to hold traffic a little bit longer while they did what they needed to do.

Moral of the story? 918's are unpredictable………and please pay attention to lights and sirens. Don't just casually drive by and disregard patrol cars on a scene. The lights and sirens are there for a reason. This applies to traffic collisions too. Be mindful that there are humans outside of their vehicles tending to problems and your 4000 lb. intervention is a nuisance……a dangerous one.

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Short answer! No! There's just nowhere to put them, plus…..the homeless don't want to be saved.
$2B ought to buy a place?

918/5150 ought to be able to get them off the street for longer than 72 hours? IF there was a place to put them?


The Pantry isn't THAT good. I'm not sure I'll be making that recommendation in the future. I had to go and open my big mouth . . .
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Short answer! No! There's just nowhere to put them, plus…..the homeless don't want to be saved.
$2B ought to buy a place?

918/5150 ought to be able to get them off the street for longer than 72 hours? IF there was a place to put them?


The Pantry isn't THAT good. I'm not sure I'll be making that recommendation in the future. I had to go and open my big mouth . . .
Let me put it to you another way….


….the homeless person wouldn't even make it to the location to start the 72 hour clock. It's a homeless culture thing. For the few that do want the roof and decent bed, there's nowhere to put them all, but there's surely space for many. The government constantly throws money at the homeless just like they throw money at low income housing, hoping to get people out of the ghetto(s) and into better environments, but they bring the ghetto with them.
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