7'38": Ferrari 458 Italia's Nürburgring Lap Time

rzm3 · 08-19-2010, 08:39 PM

Tied with the ZR1 and GT-R
Slower than GT2, GT3 RS

Quite a bit of front lift despite all the fancy aero gadgets...

http://www.sportauto-online.de/super...a-1913091.html

MediaArtist · 08-19-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Tied with the ZR1

Slower than the ZR1?

20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009) Jim Mero 27 June 2008

rzm3 · 08-19-2010, 08:42 PM

I am referring to Sport Auto's tests.

MediaArtist · 08-19-2010, 08:43 PM

Ah.

Year's_End · 08-19-2010, 09:24 PM

I honestly would have expected it to be faster than both the ZR1 and GTR, but that's still a great lap time.

majin ssj eric · 08-20-2010, 10:06 AM

THat GT-R is such a beast. How in the hell is a 4k lb saloon as fast as Ferrari's mid-engined latest and greatest???

MediaArtist · 08-20-2010, 12:17 PM

For 1/3 the price too. That car continues to impress me even though it's hard to look at sometimes.

MikeyV · 08-20-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric

THat GT-R is such a beast. How in the hell is a 4k lb saloon as fast as Ferrari's mid-engined latest and greatest???

Better engineering.

bubbletea 4 me · 08-20-2010, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majin ssj eric

THat GT-R is such a beast. How in the hell is a 4k lb saloon as fast as Ferrari's mid-engined latest and greatest???

Best engineered AWD system that defies physics?

OBI_agent · 08-20-2010, 06:19 PM

Must be a windy day at the ring....

graider · 08-20-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaArtist

For 1/3 the price too. That car continues to impress me even though it's hard to look at sometimes.

in person, I feel it is an impressive looking vehicle.

MediaArtist · 08-21-2010, 08:55 PM

Cool

Year's_End · 08-22-2010, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyV

Better engineering.

Bull. Maybe the track suits its performance stats better, or the AWD might just be that useful. The engineering in the 458 has to be on par if not better than the GTR's. Ferrari simply has more experience and puts more resources towards developing performance cars.

BayMoWe335 · 11-02-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyV

Better engineering.

Prob better marketing and fudging lap times.

4,000 pound car making less horsepower and being faster is just really questionable. I know it sounds like a hater, but it's just hard to believe.

Turbo>NA · 11-03-2010, 12:36 AM

So many haters on the GTR tho

Cdnrockies · 11-03-2010, 02:01 AM

Hilarious all the fanbois that can't accept how remarkable the performance of the GT R is.

It's one thing to dislike the looks, the interior, etc....but to argue the performance clearly displays those that aren't true enthusiasts.

458 is still an incredible car.

1cleanm6 · 11-03-2010, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cdnrockies

Hilarious all the fanbois that can't accept how remarkable the performance of the GT R is.

It's one thing to dislike the looks, the interior, etc....but to argue the performance clearly displays those that aren't true enthusiasts.

458 is still an incredible car.

it really has nothing to do with fanboys. Its interesting how a 3800 pound gtr with 480hp can match a 3050 pound 560hp FERRARI with much newer technology. We are not comparing the gtr to a normal car, were talking about ferrari here. A company who only builds performance cars.

5.44 lbs per hp for ferrari
7.9 lbs per hp for gtr

This is HUGE. I call BS

BayMoWe335 · 11-03-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanm3

it really has nothing to do with fanboys. Its interesting how a 3800 pound gtr with 480hp can match a 3050 pound 560hp FERRARI with much newer technology. We are not comparing the gtr to a normal car, were talking about ferrari here. A company who only builds performance cars.

5.44 lbs per hp for ferrari
7.9 lbs per hp for gtr

This is HUGE. I call BS

This is my point. How in the world is that even possible? It has to come down to driver, track conditions, tires, modifications, etc.

graider · 11-03-2010, 02:26 PM

this list is suspicious.

i mean look at the time for the gt3 rs, gt2, gumbert, etc... those are exactly the same time as factory claim and there is a star beside the time. is this mean this mag just put the factory claim time on this publication? this can fool readers into believe those factory time are what this mag achieved in the real world.

I like to see this mag do real ring run on these cars with a star beside their time and report back so we have accurate real world measure of how they all stack up.

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