[AW335TT]

Dont care if they share cars, if you watch any car review its always 430 Scuderia and Gallardo Superleggera, Ive never seen them compare a CS to SL in a review, and I havent seen anyone compare a Lp570 SL to a Scuderia.

[AW335TT]

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/italian-c...0-scuderia.asp

"The Ferrari 430 was introduced a few years back, and the day has arrived for true enthusiasts who care more for true performance while sacrificing some creature comforts. The 430 Scuderia is a direct competitor to the new Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, their own version of a lightened, faster version of their best selling supercar"

[BMW269]

They is also the M3 GTS. And no need to speek about the 458 Scuderia, at the moment the fastest car is the 599 GTO, no N-Ring time though. And when the 458 is out it will beat everything out there. The thing is that by the time there will be the new 911 GT3 RS (998), and it will have around 500 hp from its NA B6. Cars cannot all come up at the same time. At the moment the fastest normal car is the 458 Italia, the fastest trackcar is the 599 GTO. The most hard-core is the 911 GT3 RS.

[AW335TT]

^^^ well the 599xx laped the ring in 6:58 and according to the reviews the gto is more like a slightly tuned down 599xx than a slightly tuned up 599 gtb. I think the gto will do a really fast time around the ring.

[MediaArtist]

You guys get really wrapped up in the statistics and lap times.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by shift@red

^^^im pretty sure the ZR1 is probably the fastest car out there right now with the 911 turbo pdk, GT2 and 458 close as well. GT3 RS is one of the fastest and def most harcore. GTO im not sure about being fastest track car either.

At the moment the ZR1 is the fastest because we have no lap times for the Ferrari 458 Italia or McLaren MP4-12C. If not the Maserati MC12 is even faster than the Corvette ZR1, it does the N-Ring in 7:24 min. But just for you to know, the Porsche 911 GT2 RS, that was just revealed does the N-Ring in 7:22 min.

[b0bab0i]

Originally Posted by Levi

At the moment the ZR1 is the fastest because we have no lap times for the Ferrari 458 Italia or McLaren MP4-12C. If not the Maserati MC12 is even faster than the Corvette ZR1, it does the N-Ring in 7:24 min. But just for you to know, the Porsche 911 GT2 RS, that was just revealed does the N-Ring in 7:22 min.

Dodge Viper ACR, Gumpert Apollo,Ferrari Enzo, Maserati MC12, these are all faster than the ZR1.

Dodge Viper ACR already laps it in 7:22.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by benmoooon

Dodge Viper ACR, Gumpert Apollo,Ferrari Enzo, Maserati MC12, these are all faster than the ZR1.

Dodge Viper ACR already laps it in 7:22.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

M3 CSL ESSTuning aswell.

I think this tread went off topic with "mine is faster". Let us get back to Italia vs. GT3 RS. IMO this is apples to pears. The video is very interesting because it shows the differences and qualities of both cars. Yet I cannot chose between these two, I would like both. But if only one then none because for me it is so:
Porsche 911 GT3 RS < BMW M3 GTS
Ferrari 458 Italia < McLaren MP4-12C

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by shift@red

^^^dude,

GT3 or GT3 RS>>>>>>>>>>>>>m3 gts. m3gts isnt in the same league.

WHY ?

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by shift@red

That was NOT a street legal road car so that time is moot IMO. If youre going to claim that, then I am going to insist that its still slower than the Porsche 956 which lapped the Ring 6:25 back in 1983.

I was only referring to the lap time of the 599xx because in the review it said the GTO is more of a slightly tuned down XX than a slightly tuned up GTB, so if the xx did it in 6:58 how far back can the GTO be? Pretty sure it'll be under 7:30. Even if its not street legal it still set the record for what ever class its in.

[graider]

Originally Posted by shift@red

^^^dude,

GT3 or GT3 RS>>>>>>>>>>>>>m3 gts. m3gts isnt in the same league.

i think this is kinda early to conclude which is better. let's wait for some test/review come out first.

[Cdnrockies]

Originally Posted by Levi

No. I prefere NA to FI. 911 Turbo < GT-R < ZR1

Well, it is only my opinion and preference. It is all subjective.

Originally Posted by benmoooon

zr1 is boosted

What are you two talking about?

All 3 of those cars are boosted. Twin turbo V6 on the GT-R and supercharged LS9 for the ZR1.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by shift@red

Fair enough...kind of took what you posted in a different way.

its koo

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Cdnrockies

What are you two talking about?

All 3 of those cars are boosted. Twin turbo V6 on the GT-R and supercharged LS9 for the ZR1.

I said I prefere 911 GT3 more than 911 Turbo, but if 911 Turbo than I like GT-R and ZR1 more than 911 Turbo. Anyway it is not important what I like...