BMW i5 and 5-Series Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-12-2009, 11:47 PM   #1
305e92
Banned
24
Rep
70
Posts

Drives: AW 335i
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Miami/PR

iTrader: (0)

2011 Mustang GT "Coyote" Track package as fast as the e92 M3 ?

C&D claims that the Corsa R-compound car was lapping the 1.88 mile track just as quickly as the current BMW M3 they brought along.


http://blog.caranddriver.com/2011-fo...-hp-5-0-liter/

Last edited by 305e92; 08-13-2009 at 12:18 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 12:11 AM   #2
FStop7
I like cars
FStop7's Avatar
Vatican City State
344
Rep
5,051
Posts

Drives: M6
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park, CA

iTrader: (3)

So two prototype Mustangs with unknown adjustable shocks and R compound tires are "roughly" as fast as an M3 with worn brakes and tires on a track the driver doesn't know very well?

Your thread title sucks, you should work for Fox News.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 12:50 AM   #3
blklacker
Captain
blklacker's Avatar
51
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: seattle

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FStop7 View Post
So two prototype Mustangs with unknown adjustable shocks and R compound tires are "roughly" as fast as an M3 with worn brakes and tires on a track the driver doesn't know very well?

Your thread title sucks, you should work for Fox News.
Harsh....They are prototype cars so who know, its possible that the finally product may out preform the M3 around a track... (Its a prototype)

Have to admit Ford does need to step it up with the mustang, cuz currently that SS is pretty nasty....
__________________

-135i BSM, CRBL ,custom front lip/Indianapolis red fade, blacked out tail lights/corner headlights, golf tee, BMS Air intake, SSTT, CF spoiler,Powdered coated OEM rims gunmetal high gloss,custom Rear diffuser Black/Indianapolis red fade
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 02:11 AM   #4
DocSean
Private
DocSean's Avatar
9
Rep
93
Posts

Drives:
Join Date: Sep 2008

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by blklacker View Post
Harsh....They are prototype cars so who know, its possible that the finally product may out preform the M3 around a track... (Its a prototype)

Have to admit Ford does need to step it up with the mustang, cuz currently that SS is pretty nasty....
I think what he was trying to say is that the M3 is the greatest car in the world and that nothing will ever touch it. Any article that states otherwise is biased or just plain BS.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 10:07 AM   #5
EmPower
Captain
EmPower's Avatar
United_States
145
Rep
926
Posts

Drives: 2014 X5 xdrive 35i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DocSean View Post
I think what he was trying to say is that the M3 is the greatest car in the world and that nothing will ever touch it. Any article that states otherwise is biased or just plain BS.
So I type the obligatory 'A 335 with JB3 will kill it'....
__________________
92 Mazda Mx6 (sold), 00 VW Jetta (sold),
07 BMW 335i (sold), 10 VW Jetta (sold),
14 BMW X5 35ix (sold), 18 VW Jetta (totaled),
19 Audi SQ5 (sold), 20 Audi S6 (sold),
22 Audi SQ5
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 10:59 AM   #6
EpicE90
First Lieutenant
101
Rep
346
Posts

Drives: 2011 f150
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FStop7 View Post
So two prototype Mustangs with unknown adjustable shocks and R compound tires are "roughly" as fast as an M3 with worn brakes and tires on a track the driver doesn't know very well?

Your thread title sucks, you should work for Fox News.
Im sorry but maybe no one else noticed this... Why are you SUCHH a dick?
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 11:28 AM   #7
Year's_End
Lieutenant General
Year's_End's Avatar
United_States
1245
Rep
12,446
Posts

Drives: 2020 Shelby GT350
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Interesting article. It was also on Autoblog.

We need to know who supplied the M3. It'd also be nice to know what exactly was modified in the Stang.
__________________
Past: '08 E92 335i|ZPP|ZSP|6AT
Past: '15 Mustang GT|401A|PP|6MT
Current: '20 Shelby GT350|6MT
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 12:27 PM   #8
blue2fire
Brigadier General
blue2fire's Avatar
Cayman Islands
235
Rep
4,279
Posts

Drives: BMW 135i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Location, Location, Location

iTrader: (8)

And it still wouldn't make any difference (despite the fact that the tires seem to be severely mismatched). I wouldn't want to drive that live rear axled crap anywhere near a normal road, works admirably for a track (they say) but not much else.
__________________

BMW CCA
Member #420568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Murray View Post
Being a fan of Honda engines, I requested that they consider building for the F1 a 4.5 liter V10 or V12. I asked, I tried to persuade them, but in the end could not convince them to do it, and the McLaren F1 ended up with a BMW engine.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 12:33 PM   #9
Genericuser1
Captain
22
Rep
661
Posts

Drives: M3 Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: usa

iTrader: (0)

Not much for a LRA either but Ford seems to have made it work even on normal roads.

Not a Mustang guy but if Ford can make an affordable car hang with an M3 I say kudos to them.

I like what they have been doing lately and applaud them for doing it without bailout money.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 12:40 PM   #10
TSM330i
2006 330i, TSM, Black, manual, sport
TSM330i's Avatar
United_States
906
Rep
3,698
Posts

Drives: '17 C2, GTI, Z4 3.0si Racecar
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester Springs, PA

iTrader: (2)

For crying out loud - they're comparing some guy who just happen to be at the track with his M3 against the development engineers running the '11 Mustangs.
Sorry - headline is a fail
__________________
2017 Porsche C2 - manual of course
2015 GTI S
2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe - because racecar
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 01:27 PM   #11
NewSong
Just another jerk in a hat...
NewSong's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
1,462
Posts

Drives: 2005 Ford Focus
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Irvine

iTrader: (0)

Let me head the fanboys off at the pass:

"It's made by Ford. The seats are uncomfortable, the plastic on the interior looks like legos, and the car is ugly! A 335i with procede would smoke it."

I think that about covers it.
__________________
He brought me up also out of a horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

And he hath put a new song in my mouth.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 01:53 PM   #12
MisterSkiMask
Banned
149
Rep
2,014
Posts

Drives: I Can not say
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: you must not know

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewSong View Post
Let me head the fanboys off at the pass:

"It's made by Ford. The seats are uncomfortable, the plastic on the interior looks like legos, and the car is ugly! A 335i with procede would smoke it."

I think that about covers it.
That should do it.

But to be fair, this car will be a one trick pony, which is great if you want it for a track toy.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 02:06 PM   #13
11Past9
First Lieutenant
11Past9's Avatar
United_States
205
Rep
307
Posts

Drives: A stolen one
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: U.S.A.

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewSong View Post
Let me head the fanboys off at the pass:

"It's made by Ford. The seats are uncomfortable, the plastic on the interior looks like legos, and the car is ugly! A 335i with procede would smoke it."

I think that about covers it.


"OH EM GEE NO CINNMINN TEIRIOR WIF GREY POPPPLERRRRZ ON MONTEEEEGO BLOO?!?! WAY NOT FAST NUFF K BAI"

Ok I think we've got it now.
__________________
gentle now the tender breeze blows, whispers through my Gran Torino, whistling another tired song, engine humms and bitter dreams grow, heart locked in a Gran Torino, it beats a lonely rhythm all night long
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 02:13 PM   #14
11Past9
First Lieutenant
11Past9's Avatar
United_States
205
Rep
307
Posts

Drives: A stolen one
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: U.S.A.

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask View Post
That should do it.

But to be fair, this car will be a one trick pony, which is great if you want it for a track toy.

2010 Mustang GT

0-60 mph: 4.9 sec
1/4 mi: 13.5 sec
60-0 braking: 109 ft
Skid pad: 0.95g

E92 M3 DCT

0-60 mph: 4.1 sec
1/4 mi: 12.7 sec
60-0 braking: 104 ft
Skid pad: 0.94g

Hmm, with a live rear axle and everything. I thought a one trick pony, only did one thing well, hence the one trick pony part. I think I am missing something because, I think it does like... 4 tricks, about as good as the other pony so it should be called aaaaaaaaaa 4 trick pony.

Wait.

Is there such thing as a 4 trick pony?
__________________
gentle now the tender breeze blows, whispers through my Gran Torino, whistling another tired song, engine humms and bitter dreams grow, heart locked in a Gran Torino, it beats a lonely rhythm all night long
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 02:17 PM   #15
kyleb350
Brigadier General
kyleb350's Avatar
United_States
429
Rep
4,709
Posts

Drives: '21 X3MC
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Milwaukee

iTrader: (6)

^^You could even throw the GT500 specs in there since they are priced closer.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #16
MisterSkiMask
Banned
149
Rep
2,014
Posts

Drives: I Can not say
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: you must not know

iTrader: (0)

I was referring to the track package. I think it will be a great track toy, I would bet that a mid-corner bump would upset the car, and I would bet the suspension will be a bit stiff for DD use.

I think the performance that Ford has been able to extract from the old live axle is incredible, just like the performance that Chevy has been able to get out of the the "old fashioned useless pushrod engine" is unbelievable.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2009, 01:45 PM   #17
Genericuser1
Captain
22
Rep
661
Posts

Drives: M3 Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: usa

iTrader: (0)

You do realize that the thsi isn't the 2010 GT they are talking about its the 2011 with a 400+hp 5.0l engine. So my guess is it will be a little lighter than an M3 with similar power and should handle fairly well on the track at least for half the cost.

Of course the interior will be poor when compared to a luxury brand and it will have less in the way of technology (although SYNC is one of the better systems I've seen).

They arn't marketing this towards a BMW owner. It just happens to be doing similar lap times in testing, nothing else. It will always be a muscle/pony car and compete against other cars in that category.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2009, 01:53 PM   #18
V1.47fan
Banned
United_States
1990
Rep
1,847
Posts

Drives: TheArtist formerly known as M3
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NATIONWIDE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FStop7 View Post
So two prototype Mustangs with unknown adjustable shocks and R compound tires are "roughly" as fast as an M3 with worn brakes and tires on a track the driver doesn't know very well?

Your thread title sucks, you should work for Fox News.
Hahaha,you meant Faux News?
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2009, 01:54 PM   #19
FStop7
I like cars
FStop7's Avatar
Vatican City State
344
Rep
5,051
Posts

Drives: M6
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park, CA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicE90 View Post
Im sorry but maybe no one else noticed this... Why are you SUCHH a dick?
I'm just saying the article exaggerates and the thread title is misleading and sucks.

I think Mustangs are great, I've owned a few Fox bodies and an SN95 Cobra. My dad has a 1966 GT and a 1995 Cobra, both of which I hope he decides to pass on to me some day.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2009, 08:37 PM   #20
11Past9
First Lieutenant
11Past9's Avatar
United_States
205
Rep
307
Posts

Drives: A stolen one
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: U.S.A.

iTrader: (0)

Some times less tech is a good thing, you can keep it beyond 100,000 miles without shitting your pants every time you see the service bill
__________________
gentle now the tender breeze blows, whispers through my Gran Torino, whistling another tired song, engine humms and bitter dreams grow, heart locked in a Gran Torino, it beats a lonely rhythm all night long
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:12 AM.




g60
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST