[SchwarzOpsAZ]

So I was recently pulled over in Scottsdale, AZ and given a ticket for speeding . After wasting about 30 mins of my time waiting for the cop to write it up I realized maybe photo radar might not be that bad. I used to be a huge opponent of speed cameras, but now I'm not so sure.

Ever since Scottsdale has taken down all their speed cameras I have noticed a lot more cops with radar guns, including a new fleet of blacked out unmarked cars. So isn't it better to get a ticket in the mail that you can ignore? Rather than get pulled over by a physical person that can prove you received the ticket? And wouldn't the police rather get true criminals off the street than waste time writing speeding tickets?

Just wondering what you guys think because there is a petition to get a proposition in the next election that will ban photo radar in Maricopa County. I was for it but now I'm not so sure.

[Spaceman Spiff]

The ticket won't just go away if you get it in mail and ignore it so I don't really see what's the point there. As for camera vs. cop, I prefer getting a ticket from a cop because it's easier to contest and win (at least in CA).

[STICKY335]

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

The ticket won't just go away if you get it in mail and ignore it so I don't really see what's the point there. As for camera vs. cop, I prefer getting a ticket from a cop because it's easier to contest and win (at least in CA).

I agree with you all the way.... i just got a freakin ticket in the mail from a red light camera and didnt even know it till it came to my mailbox and now i have basically no outs of dismissing the case.

[SchwarzOpsAZ]

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

The ticket won't just go away if you get it in mail and ignore it so I don't really see what's the point there.

I have had a few tickets go away. Redflex, the private company that runs the radar here, has to prove you received notice. So they send out a ticket in regular mail hoping you will pay, if you don't pay they may send someone out to serve you and prove you got the ticket. If you refuse the server or don't ever get served they may file a complaint in the city court where your violation happened. They will then send you a notice saying a complaint has been filed and a court date set. If you go to the court the Redflex employee can hold the photo radar picture up to your face to prove to the judge it was you. If you don't show up they have no proof of who was driving the car or if you ever got the notice and the judge has to dismiss it.

Another trick that seems to be working is that my new car is registered under my company, it seems Redflex does not send photo radar violations to company owned cars... according to an article I read and some unintentional testing by myself.

As for camera vs. cop, I prefer getting a ticket from a cop because it's easier to contest and win (at least in CA).

In the end I think this is the most true, if I have to go to court I'd rather fight a person than a machine. Besides most of the time I see a cop car long before a speed camera.

[montreal red]

i wouldnt mine if all the roads and highways were enforced by speed cameras... this way you'd know where they are before hand... esp with radar detectors that have gps built in...

[ptack]

Don't assume speed cameras would predictably stay in one place or would be limited to just a few locations. If they begin to prove to be good revenue generators, look to see them spread like the plague. I much prefer cops because they can use their judgement as to such things as to how fast do you need to go relative to everyone else to get a ticket. You can negotiate with a person.

[oneintheory]

Originally Posted by ptack

Don't assume speed cameras would predictably stay in one place or would be limited to just a few locations. If they begin to prove to be good revenue generators, look to see them spread like the plague. I much prefer cops because they can use their judgement as to such things as to how fast do you need to go relative to everyone else to get a ticket. You can negotiate with a person.

+1.

[OverDrive]

I'd rather get a ticket from a speed camera because that would just be a fine and won't go on the driver's license's history since they can't prove who the driver was which is better for insurance purposes.
Also, with camera's you'll know exactly where they are where as for cops they could be anywhere camping on their ass with a radar or laser gun catching you off guard when driving 'spirited'.
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