[Kenix]

Beats the panamera for sure. I think someone needs to tell porsche that these 4door supercoupes are best done with angles and lines, not curves.

[ChrisV]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

I think it's more about where the front axle lies.

Too much front overhang.

You guys know nothing of overhang. Look at how spoorts cars have been forever, from things like the Ferrari Daytona through the Corvette and F40/F50/Enzo. Then look at sedans throughout history. This car has barely any overhang in comparison. You want no overhang? Buy a Mini or a Jeep CJ. For a sport sedan and GT car, give me balanced overhang to allow for real smooth, aerodynamic curves, not blocky, stubby bulldogs.





















When you step back and look at the overall picture, the proportion of nose to the rest of the body is very well done. It's more of a 4 door GT car than a tradtional 3 box sedan (trunk, passenger compartment, nose):



And it follows a long history of similar cars. This is how designers are trained to look at cars: not just at what's on the market right now, but how automotive history in each segment has got us to where we are right now, and how to honor, respect and draw from that long history.

[ragingclue]

I used to own a '68 GTO (sad how I can immediately distinguish from the '69 above on multiple visual cues), so I know plenty about "sports" cars and front overhang....

I just think the long nose plus the long body make it look too - well - long. I was just stating my opinion based on what I see and what my brain tells me. I'm well aware of the snouts on many sports cars today and throughout history. I'm just not really a fan of it on modern cars. I think Porsche really did some bad things with the profile of the 911 when they went with water cooling. Why? Because I hate the overhangs. I think if you look at the profile of LT1 and LS1 F-bodies, they're ugly as sin. Why? Excessive overhang. It looks like the design guys at GM tried to push the front and rear axles together.

I'm discriminatory against overhang. Call it racist or ignorant, or whatever you want.... I just don't like it.

[gonzo]

Behold the 89 Lagonda. Now that is a nose.

[ChrisV]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

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I'm discriminatory against overhang. Call it racist or ignorant, or whatever you want.... I just don't like it.

Just saying, most of the most beautiful car designs of all time, not just in my eyes, but in the eyes of trained professionals over the decades, have had overhang. Form Jaguar XKEs to Ferrari 250GTOs and Daytonas.

Cars are not natural devices, they are mechanical objects, and as such, liking or not liking designs is a learned trait, not a natural one. So if you learned wrong (like if you learned 2+2=5) then it can me unlearned with knowledge.

If you find all the classically beautiful cars distasteful due to what you consider undue overhang, then your learning on the reasons for that overhang is, well, wrong.

Old or modern...

[montreal red]

damn thats such a nice car....