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      05-24-2023, 07:30 PM   #199
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doubt the picture is in the right ratio. obviously the g60 would be longer if the ratio was correct. its 97mm longer than the g30.
Unfortunately, it's mostly at overhangs
Wheelbase is only 20mm longer
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      05-24-2023, 07:32 PM   #200
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The daytime running light design is so bad… what the hell? It looks unfinished
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      05-24-2023, 07:32 PM   #201
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As far as BMW designs go lately, will take this all day. The rear is kind of a mess in that it’s not really BMW-looking and doesn’t match the rest of the design.

But with BMW lately, need to see the car in person. In contrast, this really makes the G30 feel and look like the best modern BMW. And it’s not even close.

Aside from the rear gimmicky taillights on the new E Class, I think Mercedes did a better job.
I agree about the rear valance- when did black shiny plastic pretending to be a diffuser make design beautiful?
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      05-24-2023, 08:00 PM   #202
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Once upon a time, they knew how to create perfection...
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      05-24-2023, 08:26 PM   #203
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Once upon a time, they knew how to create perfection...
Not that long ago….
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      05-24-2023, 09:00 PM   #204
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It’s an attempt to hide the increased height. Even the designer explained it was hard to not make it look like a brick since the roofline has increased significantly to incorporate the batteries in the floor. He said they wanted to make it less German and more Italian.
So will ICE models be lower?
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      05-24-2023, 09:19 PM   #205
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For me, the exterior design is just very bland. The side profile is so flat and not muscular. The rear lights looks like the Camry from 1990s.

While the light bar in the interior seemed to be just for the front doors. The rear doors don't get any. Why?
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      05-24-2023, 09:23 PM   #206
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It’s an attempt to hide the increased height. Even the designer explained it was hard to not make it look like a brick since the roofline has increased significantly to incorporate the batteries in the floor. He said they wanted to make it less German and more Italian.
Do you have the link to this?
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      05-24-2023, 09:30 PM   #207
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Ewe, that was my gut reaction. Then I looked at all the pics, and yep, just ewe. I’m sure there are individual features I will like, but overall the styling is terrible, the wheels are terrible, and the interior screams Kia so loudly I have to look away.
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      05-24-2023, 10:24 PM   #208
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For me, the exterior design is just very bland. The side profile is so flat and not muscular. The rear lights looks like the Camry from 1990s.

While the light bar in the interior seemed to be just for the front doors. The rear doors don't get any. Why?
Every generation the strong character line on the side vanishes a little
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      05-24-2023, 10:31 PM   #209
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Anyone know when they will show pics of the 540i with M-sport? A shadowline ICE grill will definitely help but curious to see how the sensor will look.

I think in a dark color this will be nice because not a fan of how BMW is adding so much black accenting on the front/rear bumper and side skirts.
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      05-24-2023, 10:33 PM   #210
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I think it looks decent.

Almost similar to e60 5 series.

I will like it when I see M5 and M570i, etc.
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      05-24-2023, 10:46 PM   #211
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Unfortunately, the more I look at it the more I realize BMW designers’ dreams were subverted for the sake of aerodynamics, i.e., drag coefficients.

The problem is the tech isn’t advanced enough on the battery to be efficient…. Mercedes did the same thing - but worse.

Crazy how far behind they are on this. When tesla created the bev successfully, bmw should have woken up. There is no way I’d buy a 5300 lb sports sedan with this egg shaped look, as much as I am loyal to bmw.

I actually don’t like teslas for their cheap interior, but they are so efficient and simple compared to this mess. Imagine telling your friends I have a 5 i M 60 X drive. It’s over complicated, heavy, blah range and sacrifice range for acceleration. Huge battery. A base model S beats this car in every dimension - faster, more range, lighter, simpler, faster charge rate.

I would buy it for my mom, but for me it’s pretty clear cut.
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Regarding the drls, we’ve gone from angel eyes to snake eyes!

Bmw can’t seem to make up their mind what to do with these
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I hate to say it but first I thought its a toyota camery!
This damn new toyotas are look like BMWs!
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Need to see this car in black to hide all that crap plastic trim along the bottom. And the grill, blacked out please. Looks too big without that yet again.
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      05-25-2023, 12:01 AM   #215
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Dynamically the double wishbone front suspension will be a big step up, interested to hear the driving reviews.
Thought the 5 had this since F10?
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      05-25-2023, 12:34 AM   #216
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It’s ok, but it just doesn’t look premium to me. The car is 80k, it should look like that.
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I think it looks decent.

Almost similar to e60 5 series.

I will like it when I see M5 and M570i, etc.
There is no M570i from all we know, all the folks who purchased M550i did so coz there is no more than an I-6 anymore.
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For me, the exterior design is just very bland. The side profile is so flat and not muscular. The rear lights looks like the Camry from 1990s.

While the light bar in the interior seemed to be just for the front doors. The rear doors don't get any. Why?
Because thats what happening when you bring aboard a mediocre guy from Skoda. Smart people like Kia let them without competent staff…
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      05-25-2023, 04:20 AM   #220
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It'll be interesting to see how the body is changed changed for the future M5, will the rear arches also be widenened this time around? As a current F90 LCI owner though they'd have to perform some miracles to fix the bulbous shape of the car to get me to upgrade.
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