[carchrism5]

i know ppl have different needs and opinions, nothing i said was based on fact just my own opinion and perception and i am stupid therefore i make stupid comments (transitive property of lack of intelligence)

I think there may be some ambiguity, I RESPECT the car, the is350 is damn fast and good quality, I just personally do not like it, I have very skewed perceptions because of my biased view, but i was just wondering what you guys thought about it, i was looking for more input on the idea.

so i'm sorry if i came off looking like a retard and upset anyone who owns one

But we can all still be friends, right?

[carchrism5]

i need to learn how to do better smilely faces

[BMW_TT]

Originally Posted by sflgator

The older folks here love their IS250's...they're everywhere. The younger guys that drive the IS350's...well, they're ok, but like you said, they don't handle well and they have little TQ; not to mention that the backseat is too small.

I love Lexus (drove 3 of them in the past), but they still emphasize luxury first and performance second; maybe the ISF will change that (although for >$70k)???? Although, imho, I think Lexus should've changed the look of the ISF, instead of making it an IS350 on steroids.

New Car and Drive estimate it to be at 58k base.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by BMW_TT

New Car and Drive estimate it to be at 58k base.

Lexus has "packages" which will no doubt make the ISF $70k or more, unless you'd like it with nothing in it.

[ToothDoc]

you got it wrong sflgator. Fully loaded and + Neiman Marcus markup makes it 68,000. Pretty much fully loaded (Nav, Mark Levinson sound, etc.) will be around 60,000. You can add dynamic cruise + precollision and max out around 63K.

[BMW_TT]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Lexus has "packages" which will no doubt make the ISF $70k or more, unless you'd like it with nothing in it.

Estimated price as tested model was 60k.

[shragon]

i looked at them when i was shopping for my car. it's cool. i obviously went with the e90 in the end.