[Otruba_843]

I decided to trade my 2011 RXT 260 IS with 72 hours on it today for a brand new 2013 RXT 260. I don't have a chance to ride it for the next 2 weeks though

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[Joekerr]

Nice!

We are sort of halfheartedly thinking about getting either a jetski, ATV, or snowmobile in the next year or so...probably not a snowmobile actually


What made you choose to stay with Seadoo over the other brands? I've been reading the jetski thread, seems like a lot like yamaha.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Nice!

We are sort of halfheartedly thinking about getting either a jetski, ATV, or snowmobile in the next year or so...probably not a snowmobile actually


What made you choose to stay with Seadoo over the other brands? I've been reading the jetski thread, seems like a lot like yamaha.

I'm a Yamaha junkie myself, but SeaDoo makes an excellent product too. I have to say, I've ridden both an RXT-X and a VXR, and it seems like SeaDoo in the past at least, has countered the HP output with weight and hull design which would limit the top speed. I guess the consumer base for the average rider it wouldn't be distinguishable, but for someone riding, I think Yamahas overall design is more well balanced.

I am not biased one over the other, both companies make equally awesome water machines, especially with technology advancing with every year that passes, which is pretty self explanatory looking at an original 1986 design (less than 20 years of innovation, its like night and day).


Nice pickup OP! Definitely tons of fun worth having!

[Joekerr]

At the risk of derailing the thread then, are you saying Seadoos are less powerful, but have a better hull design than Yamaha's, so they are more nimble / better turn in?

Thanks!

[Billup]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

At the risk of derailing the thread then, are you saying Seadoos are less powerful, but have a better hull design than Yamaha's, so they are more nimble / better turn in?

Thanks!

Not less powerful, but in previous models if I'm not mistaken, they would add weight to counter the HP limiting the top end speed to ~80mph (which granted is still stupid fast on the water). The added weight played a role in how the hull itself was designed, and while it still has amazing displacement it seemed more "bulky" per se in basic maneuvers, where the Yamaha felt a little more agile, especially corning through an apex.

Like I said, the differences I don't think are really all that substantial for average riders just going out and enjoying the water, but for people having fun with some slaloms, I think the Yamaha performed a bit better with this. If you are considering purchasing either, you really can't go wrong either way.

[My335iTT]

awesome buy! Let me know what city you got that in and I will tell you the average invoice price for that so we can see if you got a deal

[Otruba_843]

Originally Posted by Billup

Not less powerful, but in previous models if I'm not mistaken, they would add weight to counter the HP limiting the top end speed to ~80mph (which granted is still stupid fast on the water). The added weight played a role in how the hull itself was designed, and while it still has amazing displacement it seemed more "bulky" per se in basic maneuvers, where the Yamaha felt a little more agile, especially corning through an apex.

Like I said, the differences I don't think are really all that substantial for average riders just going out and enjoying the water, but for people having fun with some slaloms, I think the Yamaha performed a bit better with this. If you are considering purchasing either, you really can't go wrong either way.

The Coast Guard limits the top speed of all PWC's to 68 mph. The S3 hull handles better than any Yamaha I have ridden. I love Yamaha outboards, but when it comes to skis, it's Seadoo for me. The build quality is better and they feel more solid. The fit and finish is much better on the Seadoo. Same goes for the technology as well.

Originally Posted by My335iTT

awesome buy! Let me know what city you got that in and I will tell you the average invoice price for that so we can see if you got a deal

I got it in Charleston, SC where I live. Believe me, I got a VERY good deal. Tell me the price though.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by Otruba_843

The Coast Guard limits the top speed of all PWC's to 68 mph. The S3 hull handles better than any Yamaha I have ridden. I love Yamaha outboards, but when it comes to skis, it's Seadoo for me. The build quality is better and they feel more solid. The fit and finish is much better on the Seadoo. Same goes for the technology as well.

I got it in Charleston, SC where I live. Believe me, I got a VERY good deal. Tell me the price though.

That is a good point, but these limits are not necessarily the cutoff for what the PWC can actually achieve, governed so average people do not pull a Dale Jr. and kill themselves (correct me if I am wrong). I just traded in my VXS for an FZR late last year, mostly attracted to the nanoXcel hull and deck. I was debating between that and a GTX 155 (I believe that's the nomenclature), because of the S3 style hull, but it seemed to be maximized during slight turns, where I felt more sturdy on the Yami in tight cornering.

Maybe I didn't get enough play time on the GTX, but both are very competitive to each other in response and feel. Like you said, the overall build quality seems to be more prevalent sitting behind the bars on the SeaDoo, but in retrospect I think they both have come leaps and bounds.

[Malibu1]

Those things sure are fun. Is it true they are pushing 800 pounds now on the 2 seaters? I remember when a seadoo was like 375 pounds. To bad they didn't even have 100HP in the old days...

[Otruba_843]

Originally Posted by Malibu1

Those things sure are fun. Is it true they are pushing 800 pounds now on the 2 seaters? I remember when a seadoo was like 375 pounds. To bad they didn't even have 100HP in the old days...

The 3 seaters are in 800-900s. mine is about 820lbs with 260hp. 0-30 in 1.7 seconds and 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. The are no doubt very fast.

[Joekerr]

Well, just to further derail this thread...I only rent jetskis when I'm in the Caribbean or something warm at this point, so I've got limited experience with them.

But I know with jet boats you can do a Hamilton turn. It just occurred to me that perhaps one could do this with a jet ski? Is that possible even - I don't know.

Also, for those that do it, I've heard of two ways - either of them true?

1. Full throttle, cut throttle fully and turn as sharp as it goes and then full throttle again. (This method seems like it would be the least stress on the internals of the boat).

2. Full throttle, then go into reverse while turning. This seems like it would cause a lot of stress on the internals.

Anybody ever do this in a boat and can chime in? Or anyone ever do this on a jet ski particularly?

[Ehwnnc]

I've yet to ride a new sea doo. I'm a little skeptical about the braking system and also "suspension"

[Otruba_843]

Originally Posted by Ehwnnc

I've yet to ride a new sea doo. I'm a little skeptical about the braking system and also "suspension"

Here is the low down. The braking, yes it does work and it will stop better than anything out there. Do I use it? No, hardly ever, but it is nice to have. Its better to gun it and swerve out of the way to avoid something, but if you don't have room to the left or right, the brake will come in handy. The previous ski I had was the suspension model. The suspension is great, but you really only feel it if you are wave jumping. A non-suspension ski handles better and feels more grounded in turns. I NEVER had a problem with suspension ever, despite everyone that doesn't own one says it will have a bunch of them. The main problem with the suspension skis is the small access hatch to the engine compartment. BRP had to do this because of the full floating deck that you sit on and put your feet on. Pretty much the only thing you can do is check the oil level, change the spark plugs, and change the oil (the oil filter is almost impossible to get out but it is possible, the area is extremely tight!) with the limited access. The non-suspension skis are much easier to work on. The access are is only problem if you are doing your own service like I do.

[GreasyGinzo]

Originally Posted by Billup

I just traded in my VXS for an FZR late last year, mostly attracted to the nanoXcel hull and deck.

The nanoXcel shit is a bunch of crap. The Yamaha skis weigh more then the SeaDoo skis.

The new RXPX S3 is awesome. It brings back the lean in style handling that the seat suspension xpl hull had back in the late 90's early 00's with the 951 motor. Those hulls were awesome. They handled like a streetbike and with the motor in the nose they cut through ruff water worlds better then any other ski of that era. They only shitty part is the 951 engine itself was a time bomb waiting to blow.

The 4tec motor is pretty bullet proof so long as you swap the ceramic supercharger washers for metal ones. They can make huge power with a bigger blower and external intercooler. The first gen RXP hull isn't bad no where near as fun to ride as the xpl hull but the sick power more then makes up for it. The new RXPX with the S3 hull is definitely the best/most fun ski out right now in the performance segment. It's just a shame that the skis are so big these days.