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      08-09-2011, 06:18 PM   #177
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Untrue. In NY, only one person needs to be aware that the conversation is being recorded. It gets really iffy once you start calling across state lines though.
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      08-09-2011, 06:22 PM   #178
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Untrue. In NY, only one person needs to be aware that the conversation is being recorded. It gets really iffy once you start calling across state lines though.
lols..alright man i said generally..of course laws very by state

I'll refer you to California Penal Code 632...and it is a California dealership though OP seems to be from Alaska
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      08-09-2011, 06:24 PM   #179
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I'm actually going down to San Antonio this weekend... I'll pay them a visit and see what they say...
Lol you should get right up to signing papers on buying a new Accord or something and then say "Oh WAIT... YOU'RE the dealership that backed out of the eBay GTR?! No thanks." and walk out.
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      08-09-2011, 06:28 PM   #180
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lols..alright man i said generally..of course laws very by state

I'll refer you to California Penal Code 632...and it is a California dealership though OP seems to be from Alaska
Dealership is in Texas...
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      08-09-2011, 06:29 PM   #181
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oh..ok man u win...theres a San Marcos California too..but you're right

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      08-09-2011, 06:29 PM   #182
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So Mr. Vang did you get a call from the dealership yet??? I heard the dealership will honor the price
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      08-09-2011, 06:49 PM   #183
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^Which news blog reported that?
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      08-09-2011, 06:50 PM   #184
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Nevermind lol
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      08-09-2011, 06:51 PM   #185
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Lol you should get right up to signing papers on buying a new Accord or something and then say "Oh WAIT... YOU'RE the dealership that backed out of the eBay GTR?! No thanks." and walk out.
a couple of those would actually work out really well I'd bet...
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      08-09-2011, 06:52 PM   #186
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fyi: recording phone calls without consent is generally illegal
orlly? didnt know that. i just thought that if it came down to going to court... the phone calls, without recording, would just be a he say/she say kinda thing... but i'm sure he has e-mails and stuff too
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      08-09-2011, 06:58 PM   #187
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I guess it's just pending hope he gets it... either way I'm stopping by the dealership Friday lol
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orlly? didnt know that. i just thought that if it came down to going to court... the phone calls, without recording, would just be a he say/she say kinda thing... but i'm sure he has e-mails and stuff too
Sounds like he has plenty of evidence..they even posted "Sold" on some website apparently and then retracted it LOL..
Whether it's a crime depends on the state; some places consent is required from both parties, sometimes just notification is enough..i just wanted to flag it as an issue for OP. It's a potential wiretapping crime.
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Texas law says "a party".. So only one person has to know as long as it is not being done to commit a crime. http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/texas.html

Here is state by state listing of phone conversation recording laws....

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states.html

Apparently California thinks its ok to leave a loophole for people to communicate through without being held liable.
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WTF is going on in your facebook default pic Vang?!

Lol anyway from my yelp review...

I hope Ian gets demoted from being in direct contact with customers as he has aptly proven his inability to resolve conflict and in-turn has tarnished the dealerships reputation nationwide.
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yeah, wtf is up with the fb picture????

only in alaska..
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      08-09-2011, 07:34 PM   #193
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wtf is up with GTR's causing so much ruckus lately? Shit, now I want one.


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566180

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EDIT: Now I want one for $52k
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Texas law says "a party".. So only one person has to know as long as it is not being done to commit a crime. http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/texas.html

Here is state by state listing of phone conversation recording laws....

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states.html

Apparently California thinks its ok to leave a loophole for people to communicate through without being held liable.
that's interesting...read a few states. but how does apply for state to state phone calls?

edit* nm its on there
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      08-09-2011, 08:43 PM   #195
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So long as a wire, oral, or electronic communication—including the radio portion of any cordless telephone call—is not recorded for a criminal or tortious purpose, anyone who is a party to the communication, or who has the consent of a party, can lawfully record the communication and disclose its contents. Texas Penal Code § 16.02.

The key word here is tortious. If the OP records the conversation and uses that conversation in legal proceedings then he is breaking the law.

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