2014 JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study

The Automotive Enthusiast · 02-23-2014, 11:32 AM

Porsche dropped from second, Mercedes takes it's place.

Focus · 02-23-2014, 02:44 PM

Wow. Time to get a lexus?

Chihuahua · 02-23-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Focus

Wow. Time to get a lexus?

Yes.

ybbiz34 · 02-23-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Focus

Wow. Time to get a lexus?

Or Mercedes.

NemesisX · 02-23-2014, 06:05 PM

Wow. Excellent showings by Lexus and Mercedes. For some reason I always had this notion in my head that Porsches were generally unreliable, but I guess I was wrong. Porsche's reliability rank is extremely high.

Chihuahua · 02-23-2014, 06:07 PM

Look at MINI down there at the bottom. Not good.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 02-23-2014, 06:54 PM

Things were a lot different in 2013:

NemesisX · 02-23-2014, 07:08 PM

Nice improvement for BMW from 2013 to 2014

ItsHectic · 02-23-2014, 07:23 PM

Mechanical Intervention Normally Involved

son_of_siggy · 02-23-2014, 08:32 PM

Looks like Caddy made good improvements as well. #3 on the list overall . . .

Twix · 02-23-2014, 08:44 PM

I think these studies are hogwash. How can Lincoln, made in the same plants as their Ford counterparts be so much better. It just doesn't add up right.

Robert · 02-23-2014, 08:52 PM

Lexus has always hovered around the top 5 for many years. Reason why I went with a Lexus after lemoning the BMW. But I am tired of it and ready to buy another German

majin ssj eric · 02-23-2014, 09:31 PM

That's where my wife's 2013 GS350 F-Sport really shines. Drives as good as any of its German competitors while remaining bulletproof as a proper Lexus should. And she's a beaut to boot!

chumley · 02-24-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Twix

I think these studies are hogwash. How can Lincoln, made in the same plants as their Ford counterparts be so much better. It just doesn't add up right.

Agreed. Every single person I have ever known with a Mercedes has been on a first name basis with the dealer's service manager or an indie. Find me one owner who says "oh ya, I've never had to take my car to the dealer for anything".

hellrotm · 02-24-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chumley

Agreed. Every single person I have ever known with a Mercedes has been on a first name basis with the dealer's service manager or an indie. Find me one owner who says "oh ya, I've never had to take my car to the dealer for anything".

I have had two Mercedes. Scheduled maintenance only. My old 335i, that is a different story.

KingOfJericho · 02-24-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Twix

I think these studies are hogwash. How can Lincoln, made in the same plants as their Ford counterparts be so much better. It just doesn't add up right.

That's nothing compared to the Lexus-Toyota spread. The Lincoln to Ford jump is 23% (26pts) while the Lexus to Toyota jump is 68% (46pts).

MediaArtist · 02-24-2014, 11:33 AM

Mercedes and Cadillac are a lot higher than I expected. German and U.S engineering.

Sniz · 02-24-2014, 11:54 AM

if only I liked driving a Lexus, had a gs430 and found it super boring.

Study is also making me feel real good about my recent TDI sportwagen purchase......not! Though 40mpg average has been fantastic.

KingOfJericho · 02-24-2014, 12:41 PM

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Study is also making me feel real good about my recent TDI sportwagen purchase......not! Though 40mpg average has been fantastic.

LOL yeah, I feel totally awesome about our new Grand Cherokee after this as well haha.

Benstuck · 02-24-2014, 03:20 PM

What is JD basing this information on?

The Automotive Enthusiast · 02-24-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skhmund

What is JD basing this information on?

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/2014-VDS-Study.htm

BavarianN54 · 02-24-2014, 03:57 PM

I think BMW took a big hit from 08 and for a period of time after due to the horrendous issues with the HPFP and turbos from the first runs of the N54. Word of mouth was getting around and even making the news, that hurts sales and are unacceptable. They finally straightened it out and are trying hard to make better products and stay well above the average line.

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Focus Captain 70 Rep 942 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Jersey iTrader: (2)	Wow. Time to get a lexus? __________________
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NemesisX Captain 321 Rep 905 Posts Drives: '19 Infiniti Q60S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Wow. Excellent showings by Lexus and Mercedes. For some reason I always had this notion in my head that Porsches were generally unreliable, but I guess I was wrong. Porsche's reliability rank is extremely high.
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Chihuahua Brigadier General 4722 Rep 3,445 Posts Drives: E30 329iS, E65 Alpina B7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: SE US iTrader: (0)	Look at MINI down there at the bottom. Not good.
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ItsHectic But your honour it's my Affluenza I swear! 64 Rep 533 Posts Drives: at a reasonable speed Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NSW iTrader: (0)	Mechanical Intervention Normally Involved __________________ 135i M Sport DCT. BSM/Oyster/GP trim. FBO Cobb, Bilstein EDC coilovers, M3 bushings, PSS. Knowledge of the Tapa Tapa Tapa street race start.
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son_of_siggy Lieutenant 17 Rep 432 Posts Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Looks like Caddy made good improvements as well. #3 on the list overall . . .
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Robert Major General 449 Rep 6,967 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Lexus has always hovered around the top 5 for many years. Reason why I went with a Lexus after lemoning the BMW. But I am tired of it and ready to buy another German __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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majin ssj eric Captain 88 Rep 812 Posts Drives: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 Sedan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Simons Island, GA iTrader: (0)	That's where my wife's 2013 GS350 F-Sport really shines. Drives as good as any of its German competitors while remaining bulletproof as a proper Lexus should. And she's a beaut to boot! __________________ 2013 Lexus GS 350 F-Sport Starfire Pearl/Flaxen w/nav 2009 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedan Sapphire/Tan w/nav 1997 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
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MediaArtist There is No Substitute 79 Rep 1,186 Posts Drives: Audi A6, 997 GT3 RS, E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Laguna Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	Mercedes and Cadillac are a lot higher than I expected. German and U.S engineering. __________________ '13 Audi A6 '07 Porsche GT3 RS '08 BMW E90 335i
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Sniz Lieutenant General 715 Rep 10,584 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	if only I liked driving a Lexus, had a gs430 and found it super boring. Study is also making me feel real good about my recent TDI sportwagen purchase......not! Though 40mpg average has been fantastic. __________________
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BavarianN54 Banned 6 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I think BMW took a big hit from 08 and for a period of time after due to the horrendous issues with the HPFP and turbos from the first runs of the N54. Word of mouth was getting around and even making the news, that hurts sales and are unacceptable. They finally straightened it out and are trying hard to make better products and stay well above the average line.
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