[marzzz]

i5 eD40; I am a moderate driver, very little highway, not racing anyone. Went in for service for an unrelated problem, and the service tech shows me a video of front tires tread down to 3-4 mm, rear tires literally showing wear bars. I know EVs are heavier, have more torque, etc., but completely worn after one year?

And what would people recommend I replace them with? I really don't want to keep doing this every year on a 3-year lease! Thx...!

[Blue Sky]

Wrong inflation pressure (too much: wear in the middle, too little: wear on the shoulders) or bad alignment are the usual suspects.

[SkykingUSA]

I also have a 2024 eDrive40 and have been driving it since March 21st (almost 1 year). The car has about 6760 miles on it. I'm like you, I don't drive crazy and am generally a pretty relaxed driver. My car has 19" wheels with summer Bridgestone Turanza 6 tires. I just measured the tread and each tire has approximately 5 mm right now.

I'm in SoCal, so it doesn't get too cold here and there is not a lot of rain. The roads I normally take are pretty decent, meaning no major potholes or other odd surfaces. Not sure why your tires would be ready to be replaced after a year. I don't know the tread depth my tires started at, but with 5 mm left right now, I should have at least another mm to go before I consider new tires.

There was another thread about tires in the forum somewhere. If you search in this forum you should be able to find it. Maybe put an all-season on instead of a summer tire? Perhaps the all seasons will wear more slowly than a summer tire.

[marzzz]

Originally Posted by Blue Sky

Wrong inflation pressure (too much: wear in the middle, too little: wear on the shoulders) or bad alignment are the usual suspects.

I have a compressor in my garage, so unless the car's tire sensors are miscalibrated I have been pretty diligent about keeping the pressures within spec. The most wear is on the inside of the rear tires, so perhaps the alignment?

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

I also have a 2024 eDrive40 and have been driving it since March 21st (almost 1 year). The car has about 6760 miles on it. I'm like you, I don't drive crazy and am generally a pretty relaxed driver. My car has 19" wheels with summer Bridgestone Turanza 6 tires. I just measured the tread and each tire has approximately 5 mm right now.

I'm in SoCal, so it doesn't get too cold here and there is not a lot of rain. The roads I normally take are pretty decent, meaning no major potholes or other odd surfaces. Not sure why your tires would be ready to be replaced after a year. I don't know the tread depth my tires started at, but with 5 mm left right now, I should have at least another mm to go before I consider new tires.

There was another thread about tires in the forum somewhere. If you search in this forum you should be able to find it. Maybe put an all-season on instead of a summer tire? Perhaps the all seasons will wear more slowly than a summer tire.

I am in Scottsdale, AZ so similar conditions. Plus, I generally stay off the highway (we are having a lot of construction lately). BMW Service is quoting me $1800 for 4 Continentals and alignment; I will shop around of course.

I can only imagine how bad it could be if I had an i5 M60...

[Greg-Bimmer550e]

I had a similar issue with my previous X7. I had the staggered continentals and they would wear at less than 10k miles. Manager argued with me that was perfectly normal. Also had a bad alignment despite getting my vehicle aligned recently. Not to mention that it was covid, there were only 2 tires made for my X7 at the time, and they were all backordered. This horrendous experience is why I had a short hiatus from BMW, but I am glad to be back.

I am hoping that the pirellis I have last a little longer.

[dsgs]

Summer tires have much shorter lifespan than all season tires. Some types of tires are rated for tread life, and that can give you an idea of how long the manufacturer expects them to last. Look up UTQG on Wikipedia. As an example, the above mentioned Bridgestone Turanza 6 summer tires have a UTQG value of 320. Pirelli P Zero AS 3 Plus all-season tires in the same size have a rating of 560. The rating is intended to be “percent tread life” relative to a reference tire. So the Bridgestones are expected to last a bit over 3 times longer than the reference tire, and the Pirellis are expected to last more than 5 times as long.

You can also compare manufacturer tread life warranties, but I would put little stock into the actual numbers given how many exceptions and gotchas there are in the warranty terms.

… none of this is intended to be a recommendation for any particular tire or brand. I hope it just gives you some ideas on how to evaluate your options.

[SkykingUSA]

Originally Posted by marzzz

i5 eD40; I am a moderate driver, very little highway, not racing anyone. Went in for service for an unrelated problem, and the service tech shows me a video of front tires tread down to 3-4 mm, rear tires literally showing wear bars. I know EVs are heavier, have more torque, etc., but completely worn after one year?

And what would people recommend I replace them with? I really don't want to keep doing this every year on a 3-year lease! Thx...!

What brand are your current tires?

[elbmw]

i5 e40 here, with 12.5K miles in 11 months. 20 inch staggered set up with all season tires. No issues still, even with the rears. I'm a pretty spirited driver as well.

[Blue Sky]

Inner shoulder wear is from having a lot of postive camber in your alignment. This can be on purpose (sport oriented specs, or your own preference, e.g. I had a lot of camber on my M3 and yes I went through a lot of tires, but it was worth it to me). It can be overdone of course, like the silly cars with dubs you see on the street with grotesquely overexaggerated camber that looks like the axles are bent.

Might be bad alignment, especially if only one side. Could be bad alighnment on both sides as well. did you ever have an alignment done since owning the car? If you did, it would be interesting to see the sheet they gave you since it will list the specs their alignment system computer retrieved for your car model.

So about positive camber: it increases as the suspension compresses and the car lowers. Lowered cars, or cars with broken suspensions that sit lower than spec tend to have higher camber. Yet another scandal with the Porsche Taycan is that some people have extremely low tire life and worn out tires, and this seems to be coming from use of either the most sporty suspension setting or the long-range/eco setting, both of which lower the car closer to the pavement for better aerodynamics at the risk of bottoming out. This lowered setting probably increases the camber and long term use severely wore out the tires. I have no information about what if any height changes the various G60 suspensions and their modes can produce, as so far I have assumed none since I haven’t seen it called out. This is something I’ll be sure to look into when I receive my M60.

[Blue Sky]

Oh, and whenever you want to talk about tires, you need to specify exactly which ones you have.

[paprmkr]

Wow that’s bad. I went over 22k miles on mine still had 4/32nds when replaced. On 20” Pirellis all season.
Now on Conti- 6Q 21” I gone 10k and still over 6/32nds all around even

[marzzz]

Originally Posted by Blue Sky

Oh, and whenever you want to talk about tires, you need to specify exactly which ones you have.

Ah, good point. Continental EcoContact 6Q *MO

19" 245/45 R19 102Y XL "extra load"

Thank you all for kind advice so far. btw- my local BMW Service wants nearly $2000 for the set plus alignment; erhm, no...

[MikeElmendorf]

I have an i5 M60 and my Pirellis were shot around 12k miles I think. Explained and makes sense as the result of the weight of the vehicle, torque and staggered (and therefore not rotated) setup of the tires.

Price of doing business here, I guess…

[AlteBMW]

Originally Posted by marzzz

Ah, good point. Continental EcoContact 6Q *MO

19" 245/45 R19 102Y XL "extra load"

Thank you all for kind advice so far. btw- my local BMW Service wants nearly $2000 for the set plus alignment; erhm, no...

Tire Rack has those tires for $275, $1103 for 4. Let's add $100 for install on wheels and $250 for alignment, then round up $1500. So the dealer price is inflated (what else is new?). Only issue I see is makke sure any tire shop you use has the right aliignment equipment. See if dealer will be more reasonable?

[marzzz]

Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf

I have an i5 M60 and my Pirellis were shot around 12k miles I think. Explained and makes sense as the result of the weight of the vehicle, torque and staggered (and therefore not rotated) setup of the tires.

Price of doing business here, I guess…

I asked the Service Manager about people with the i5 M60, and he told me they were coming back in with was little as 4000 miles (?). Also, I discovered that Continental does have a New Vehicle Warranty, but that ends at 72 months or when treads wear down to 1.6 mm, provided you rotate the tires every 6000 miles or less.

Originally Posted by AlteBMW

Tire Rack has those tires for $275, $1103 for 4. Let's add $100 for install on wheels and $250 for alignment, then round up $1500. So the dealer price is inflated (what else is new?). Only issue I see is makke sure any tire shop you use has the right aliignment equipment. See if dealer will be more reasonable?

Discount Tire (HQ Scottsdale) also tends to be more reasonable, and is my go-to for tires, especially for leases. I am going to look into alternatives that may actually last longer...

[Greg-Bimmer550e]

Originally Posted by marzzz

I asked the Service Manager about people with the i5 M60, and he told me they were coming back in with was little as 4000 miles (?). Also, I discovered that Continental does have a New Vehicle Warranty, but that ends at 72 months or when treads wear down to 1.6 mm, provided you rotate the tires every 6000 miles or less. Discount Tire (HQ Scottsdale) also tends to be more reasonable, and is my go-to for tires, especially for leases. I am going to look into alternatives that may actually last longer...

Heh. The crazy nonsense that managers say to justify their BS. Definitely dealt with that before. 4000 miles for a set of tires is unacceptable. I don't care how heavy the car is.

[elbmw]

Originally Posted by marzzz

I asked the Service Manager about people with the i5 M60, and he told me they were coming back in with was little as 4000 miles (?). Also, I discovered that Continental does have a New Vehicle Warranty, but that ends at 72 months or when treads wear down to 1.6 mm, provided you rotate the tires every 6000 miles or less. Discount Tire (HQ Scottsdale) also tends to be more reasonable, and is my go-to for tires, especially for leases. I am going to look into alternatives that may actually last longer...

Yep, Discount Tire is great, have been a customer there for at least 15 years.
They also usually match or even beat Costco or Tire Rack's pricing.

[Scrapula]

I have an i5 M60 20” Pirelli All Seasons. I’ve had them a year and they have little wear. I’m currently on winter tires (Nokian) for the ice & snow, so it’s not really a full year of driving. I always ran summer tires, and when the all seasons are shot, I will get summer again. I was happy if I got 20k miles on my lightweight ICE car. I figure I might need tires every other year. But, our charger showed that we only spent $900 for 2 vehicles the entire year, so with the fuel savings, I can afford to get tires more often.

[marzzz]

So I went to Discount Tires, where I got a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 for a little over $1000 out the door. They say I should get about 20K miles as long as I rotate regularly. We'll see....!

Thanks again to all those who chimed in.

[Tinbad]

Nice! And I assume you have no issues with balancing or vibrations?

I’ve had really poor experience with most tire shops and German high performance vehicles. The balance/alignment is never as good as when fresh from factory.

[marzzz]

Originally Posted by Tinbad

Nice! And I assume you have no issues with balancing or vibrations?

I’ve had really poor experience with most tire shops and German high performance vehicles. The balance/alignment is never as good as when fresh from factory.

I haven't driven far enough to tell, but so far they feel just fine. We have been using the same Discount Tires shop for more than 20 years, and never had a problem with them.

[SkykingUSA]

Thanks for the photo and the information! I'm sure you'll keep us abreast of any issues you find down the road (if any).