[ToddRGuy]

Today, I made the journey up to Mentor, Ohio to delivery my G60 to my chosen PPF/Ceramic installer. The weather was wild to say the least, until I got further North. Given the relative stupidity of the average Ohio driver, which seems to ignore the 3-4 inches of slush and ice, there were some white-knuckle moments where I held my breath as these people zoomed by me going 20mph faster than conditions permitted. Even saw a few of them, 3-5 miles down the road in ditches. Karma has a sharp sword. God Speed, nutjobs.

At any rate, at one point during the journey an information message popped up in the HUD that said something about (paraphrasing here) "Automated Systems are unavailable due to visibility and something about sensors".

Once I got further North, past the line of demarcation of the snow storm everything simply vanished, and the roads returned to their normal wet, winter selves.

As I clipped along in better road conditions, my leg was getting a bit tired so I tried to activate the cruise control, and got the "System not available" message in the HUD. Eventually, after trying a few times, I gave up and just drove without it.

When arrived at my destination, and spoke to the installer, we walked around the vehicle and discussed the PPF locations, etc and went to the front of the car, which was covered in frozen slush, with spatterings even on the grill slots. I figure this is why it didn't allow any of the automated stuff to work.

Has anyone else experienced this?

One thing to note, even with this slow crawling traffic and bad weather, I was surprised at my gas mileage.

[nacs]

What mode were you driving in? I did some early on drives in just the normal drive mode and saw similar numbers sport mode drops me into the low 20s

[RichardInCA]

Not really a regular thing here in coastal Northern California BUT given where all the sensors are that help to judge distance to the car in front etc, I’m not at all surprised that you couldn’t activate driving assistance. Glad you made it without incident!

[AiredaleDad]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

Today, I made the journey up to Mentor, Ohio to delivery my G60 to my chosen PPF/Ceramic installer. The weather was wild to say the least, until I got further North. Given the relative stupidity of the average Ohio driver, which seems to ignore the 3-4 inches of slush and ice, there were some white-knuckle moments where I held my breath as these people zoomed by me going 20mph faster than conditions permitted. Even saw a few of them, 3-5 miles down the road in ditches. Karma has a sharp sword. God Speed, nutjobs.

At any rate, at one point during the journey an information message popped up in the HUD that said something about (paraphrasing here) "Automated Systems are unavailable due to visibility and something about sensors".

Once I got further North, past the line of demarcation of the snow storm everything simply vanished, and the roads returned to their normal wet, winter selves.

As I clipped along in better road conditions, my leg was getting a bit tired so I tried to activate the cruise control, and got the "System not available" message in the HUD. Eventually, after trying a few times, I gave up and just drove without it.

When arrived at my destination, and spoke to the installer, we walked around the vehicle and discussed the PPF locations, etc and went to the front of the car, which was covered in frozen slush, with spatterings even on the grill slots. I figure this is why it didn't allow any of the automated stuff to work.

Has anyone else experienced this?

One thing to note, even with this slow crawling traffic and bad weather, I was surprised at my gas mileage.

Todd, I am not sure what the car requires for it to function. Maybe it's the front camera, maybe it's the sensors. Or maybe it's the temperature. Did you try to use just plain old school Cruise Control, without the Adaptive part, where the car just needs to maintain a set speed and not worry about distance control etc...?

[ToddRGuy]

Originally Posted by AiredaleDad

Todd, I am not sure what the car requires for it to function. Maybe it's the front camera, maybe it's the sensors. Or maybe it's the temperature. Did you try to use just plain old school Cruise Control, without the Adaptive part, where the car just needs to maintain a set speed and not worry about distance control etc...?

It wouldn’t even let me activate the button that allows you to toggle between adaptive cruise and old school cruise. That’s the button I got the message on.

Interesting, but I kind of suspected the front camera was obscured but when I switched to augmented reality mode I could still see forward.

[ToddRGuy]

Originally Posted by nacs

What mode were you driving in? I did some early on drives in just the normal drive mode and saw similar numbers sport mode drops me into the low 20s

I think (based on the info above) 36% was in eco mode, and the balance in personal mode or whatever that thing is called. I really haven’t driven in sport mode for more than like 5-10 minutes yet lol.

[AiredaleDad]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

It wouldn’t even let me activate the button that allows you to toggle between adaptive cruise and old school cruise. That’s the button I got the message on.

Interesting, but I kind of suspected the front camera was obscured but when I switched to augmented reality mode I could still see forward.

Things that make you go HMMMMM....

[SkykingUSA]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

It wouldn’t even let me activate the button that allows you to toggle between adaptive cruise and old school cruise. That’s the button I got the message on.

Interesting, but I kind of suspected the front camera was obscured but when I switched to augmented reality mode I could still see forward.

Note that the augmented view uses the camera at the top of the windshield, not the one at the front bumper. You can confirm this by looking at your augmented view, then turning on your wipers. You will see the wipers in the view going side to side.

[AiredaleDad]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

Note that the augmented view uses the camera at the top of the windshield, not the one at the front bumper. You can confirm this by looking at your augmented view, then turning on your wipers. You will see the wipers in the view going side to side.

So is it only the cross traffic wide angle view that uses the front camera?

[SkykingUSA]

Not sure, but probably. You can check all the views you can find and turn on the wipers to see.

[desalvorw]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

Today, I made the journey up to Mentor, Ohio to delivery my G60 to my chosen PPF/Ceramic installer. The weather was wild to say the least, until I got further North. Given the relative stupidity of the average Ohio driver, which seems to ignore the 3-4 inches of slush and ice, there were some white-knuckle moments where I held my breath as these people zoomed by me going 20mph faster than conditions permitted. Even saw a few of them, 3-5 miles down the road in ditches. Karma has a sharp sword. God Speed, nutjobs.

At any rate, at one point during the journey an information message popped up in the HUD that said something about (paraphrasing here) "Automated Systems are unavailable due to visibility and something about sensors".

Once I got further North, past the line of demarcation of the snow storm everything simply vanished, and the roads returned to their normal wet, winter selves.

As I clipped along in better road conditions, my leg was getting a bit tired so I tried to activate the cruise control, and got the "System not available" message in the HUD. Eventually, after trying a few times, I gave up and just drove without it.

When arrived at my destination, and spoke to the installer, we walked around the vehicle and discussed the PPF locations, etc and went to the front of the car, which was covered in frozen slush, with spatterings even on the grill slots. I figure this is why it didn't allow any of the automated stuff to work.

Has anyone else experienced this?

One thing to note, even with this slow crawling traffic and bad weather, [...]

I had this happen in the Philly/South Jersey area. It’s just when the sensors get blocked by a bunch of stuff because then the car can’t see.

[ToddRGuy]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

Note that the augmented view uses the camera at the top of the windshield, not the one at the front bumper. You can confirm this by looking at your augmented view, then turning on your wipers. You will see the wipers in the view going side to side.

Okay that makes sense then. If that one would have been covered, I think I’d have reached the status of moving iceberg. 😄

[AlteBMW]

I have had this happen in snow and sometimes driving rain/mist conditions on every car I have had that had this kind of driver assistance system(s), including prior 5 series, 7 series, and Mercedes. The onnly solution is to see if the sensor washing system is working (on my 7 there is such a washing function; don't know for sure about the 5), or take a break and clean off the slush.

It is totally normal and to be expected that when the cameras are obscured the systems stop working. It isn't just caneras but also the radar system that is needed for cruise control.

[ToddRGuy]

Originally Posted by AlteBMW

I have had this happen in snow and sometimes driving rain/mist conditions on every car I have had that had this kind of driver assistance system(s), including prior 5 series, 7 series, and Mercedes. The onnly solution is to see if the sensor washing system is working (on my 7 there is such a washing function; don't know for sure about the 5), or take a break and clean off the slush.

It is totally normal and to be expected that when the cameras are obscured the systems stop working. It isn't just caneras but also the radar system that is needed for cruise control.

Makes perfect sense! I didn’t realize the front end was becoming an iceberg at that point but once I got out, it was quite thick up there.

[ToddRGuy]

In other news, looks like they’re working away on the project. I feel so clandestine peeking at this! lol.

[1987illini]

It's due to some of the sensors and/or cameras being obscured. I had the same thing happen last summer at dusk when the bugs were especially bad. I stopped at a rest stop and cleaned the cameras and all the other forward sensors. It worked normally afterwards. I don't know what helped the most but there was a direct hit on the camera in the windshield by a huge bug and I bet that was it.

[dsgs]

Originally Posted by AlteBMW

I have had this happen in snow and sometimes driving rain/mist conditions on every car I have had that had this kind of driver assistance system(s), including prior 5 series, 7 series, and Mercedes. The onnly solution is to see if the sensor washing system is working (on my 7 there is such a washing function; don't know for sure about the 5), or take a break and clean off the slush.

It is totally normal and to be expected that when the cameras are obscured the systems stop working. It isn't just caneras but also the radar system that is needed for cruise control.

I second this. Automation fails when ice or slush covers the radar sensor panel. On my old 3-series the panel was much closer to the ground so this happened a lot. I don't think there's a wash function for this panel on the G60. There's one for the camera but I don't think it covers the radar panel.

I've had similar messages for side impact sensors (I think). The message said "permanently disabled". I see no errors anywhere and everything seems to be working again (not that I'm going to test a side impact sensor...). I think it freaks out when things are dirty or sensors fail to self-calibrate or something and then goes back to normal the next time.

[SkykingUSA]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

In other news, looks like they’re working away on the project. I feel so clandestine peeking at this! lol.

I bet they get that a lot and are used to it by now. I'm pretty sure the lights come on when you remote in for a camera shot, so they probably know when you're looking at them. :-)

[Vindicator3]

$5 to the detailer who moons the window when some indication comes on that the camera has been activated.

[LVBMW]

Originally Posted by dsgs

I second this. Automation fails when ice or slush covers the radar sensor panel. On my old 3-series the panel was much closer to the ground so this happened a lot. I don't think there's a wash function for this panel on the G60. There's one for the camera but I don't think it covers the radar panel.

I've had similar messages for side impact sensors (I think). The message said "permanently disabled". I see no errors anywhere and everything seems to be working again (not that I'm going to test a side impact sensor...). I think it freaks out when things are dirty or sensors fail to self-calibrate or something and then goes back to normal the next time.

I also received the same "permanently disabled" driver assist message yesterday in absolutely perfect weather. Today the message is gone and everything works fine.

[ToddRGuy]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

I bet they get that a lot and are used to it by now. I'm pretty sure the lights come on when you remote in for a camera shot, so they probably know when you're looking at them. :-)

I wasn’t brave enough to do the exterior video, because it requires the car to unfold the mirrors, which is a dead give away. Also didn’t want to interfere with anything going on out there. (e.g. PPF) 😅

[AiredaleDad]

Originally Posted by ToddRGuy

I wasn’t brave enough to do the exterior video, because it requires the car to unfold the mirrors, which is a dead give away. Also didn’t want to interfere with anything going on out there. (e.g. PPF) 😅

When I was having the windows tinted, one of the times I walked by the shop I was close enough that the car woke up and recognized me. After that I was getting anti theft alarm activated alerts and videos of the interior and exterior views. One showed Butt Crack when the guy was installing the film in the rear window. They later told me that it kept goi g off and the car locked itself with the keys inside. Luckily they had the drivers and front passe ger windows out and we're able to reach in and get the spare fob I left them and then had to figure out how to turn it off.