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      06-19-2023, 03:20 PM   #148
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Originally Posted by NGT2 View Post
Going full EV doesn’t really have any net benefit. We just burn up the resources building the cars instead of running the cars.

I understand chasing efficiency. But let’s actually do that. PHEV is a great current step. The over aggression toward full EV is only serving to line pockets.

And the idea that China and India will follow the lead is wild to me. Why would they?
You say that going full EV doesn't have any net benefit but data suggests otherwise: https://www.iea.org/data-and-statist...nd-ice-vehicle. I could also share many other sources that demonstrate that EVs have a global footprint that is much less than their equivalent ICE vehicule, even when said EV is powered by electricity generated by fossil fuels.

As for PHEVs, I agree with you. When used as they should be (frequent recharges), they are a better solution than BEVs for anyone that mostly commutes and only do a few longer trips every year. A huge battery in a car that mostly stays parked is wasteful, even if better than a ICE car. The future is car sharing, so that BEVs do what they should to be most effective: rolling a lot.

As for China and India, they will have to make the same changes as us no matter what. The question is only when. And if we wait and wait and wait in the West, we only encourage them to do the same.
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