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      04-03-2024, 12:47 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Neusser View Post
Yes, but this is all meaningless. None of the cars we are discussing are track cars, with the EVs being the least suitable.

It is impressive that Porsche can make an EV that turns in a nice time on a track, but no one ever went to the track and said "Gee, I sure wish this thing weighed 3,000 lbs more."





Weight is the enemy of sport. My G31 handles very well, and I love it for what it is, but I would never argue that can take an M240i on the 'Ring or any track whatsoever. That is basically what this discussion has devolved to.
First of all, there is no guarantee the M5CS with 600 HP more is going to be 20 seconds faster on the Nurburgring. And even if it were as quick, in real-life driving, it is not going to have the effortless torque of an EV or average 80mpg. You don't seem to get it. My i4M50 is much more sure footed in the rain than your 540ix. Is just as quiet and smooth riding (adaptive air suspension), will kill it 0-60 (3.3 sec) and is 3x more efficient. And I can carry a full size desk in the hatchback cargo area. In every scenario that is important to me, the gas vehicle is inferior. Not to mention I can preheat-cool my interior from my phone, even if it were parked in doors. A same weight EV will kill the ICE cars. Did you not see the videos? And EV that weighs 1000lbs more than the gas car, can still be competitive.
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