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      11-16-2008, 10:20 PM   #152
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Originally Posted by xxForgedxx View Post
The height of that wall didn't have to be 18 inches because GM did the test and pitched it to there customers, they even had the wall at their dealerships for the Hummers to go through to show

You drive real Hummers for a living? Oh yeah? Really? That's sooo NEAT. Maybe I should join the Army or something? Ohhh that's right, already did that a while ago. Did you seriously just try to explain to me what X version was to Y in regards to the Military? Or did you think my sig pic was just because I was a wannabe?

You said that the H2 was less capable than a Chevy truck...

I showed you it was not

Why did they not show a Rubicon? Hmm maybe because I Rubicon does not fit that "Full sized SUV" demographic, youre right though they should have put that in there with a Land Rover Defender in thereee and oh an old FJ Cruiserrrr in thereee and maybe a modified Scout in thereee.

Why the fuck would they need to put a Full sized family suv through high flex maneuvers anyways?

And youre statement is still respectable because "oh gee wiz most owners don't even take there stuff off road anyways"? How do you know, is there a statistic some where from when they ASKED the owners of the H2 and other said vehicles "How many of you take your shit off road and see what it can do"?

"They used a Range Rover Sport which isnt even designed to go off road?"

are you fucking serious? did you not see the top gear where they used the RR sport to go up against a tank and it tackled some pretty serious terrain.

But you just want to be right. So you will throw every desperate "factable (things youve said that you make someone SOUND like they should believe it) to make yourself sound right.

I'm not saying the H2 and H3 is the most capable off road vehicle EVARRRR I am simply saying that you are dumb for trying to say that they are ALL SHOW and NO go. They clearly do well in the off road sector of things. And you had the balls to say your EXPEDITION COULD DO BETTER?! I had an expedition, they are a HOT MESS off road.

Oh and heres a vid with your MANEUVERS: youre right, I bet a Silverado can do that...



and the H3

Wow, holy anger issues Batman. I guess we can't have a debate without huge emotion? Do you work for GM or Hummer? Why the huge beef about my comments/opinions?

A few corrections since you misquoted me or took my comments out of context.

1. I made no capability comparisons between a military version of the Hummer and the civilian version, I simply stated that I prefer to drive/deploy in a M1008, GM Pickup rather than a military Hummer. However if I was driving around Iraq or Eastern Afghanistan my choice would be different.

2. I didn't say that an H2 or H3 had less capability than a GM Truck or SUV, I said they had similar capabilities or that the H2/H3 had no more capability. BTW, I didn't mean to refer to the Suburban or Yukon XL because the extra length is a big handicap offroad.

3. Yes, I believe that if they're trying to demonstrate the off-roading prowess of the Hummer, they should compare it to more capable competition. Clearly the RR sport and the Lexus aren't designed with serious off-roading in mind, the kind demonstrated in the video. Plus, as I mentioned, all the other vehicles had street rubber on them, no wonder they got stuck in the mud. That part was laughable, since it was more of a demo of tire traction than vehicle capability.

4. Again I didn't say my Expedition could do better, I said it could probably make it through that obstacle course.

5. Lastly, someone must be asking how much people take their vehicles off road, because I've seen the stat multiple times that they are rarely taken off-road.

You may want to reread my comments with a little more objectivity and less emotion.

You haven't changed my opinion of the H2/H3 one bit, to me they are still GM trucks with Tonka truck bodies.

On a much more serious note: Thank you for your service.
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