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Originally Posted by jstein55
Again you literally said " I am talking about track time " so why keep denying it. I'm not gonna even argue that anymore as its clearly posted above where I quoted you.
As for the 911, a generation put in production from 2004-2012, so yes a 10+ year old car pretty much, at best its 8-years old or worst 16-years old, but the world has evolved greatly since the 997 came into existence. The argument was never about capability, your original statement simply states a Model Y beats a 911 on track, that's the argument. No context what so ever, you never mentioned what generation 911, so of course someone's gonna argue that statement as I did and Germanauto who quickly replied to how laughable your comment was. Like you said its a hook, and what did you expect, that a poster with a 2 point reputation score and barely 60 posts wouldn't be branded as a Tesla fanboy with statements like that? We already have Tesla fanboys on this forum and have had many try and infiltrate threads so comments like that are of course going to get grouped with them. Without context who in their right mind would believe a Model Y would beat a 911 on track, that type of comment without context makes anyone look like a fool trying to compare a bread and butter sports car to an electric SUV especially on track. When you put those two cars in the same sentence, you made a general statement, without getting into the specifics about each vehicle, most will just infer that from your very short and non-detailed statement that you mean both stock for stock and new, essentially being a "fair comparison", because as we all know, any new 911 would decimate any Tesla on track.
What your post doesn't say is this. The Model Y that beat the 911 was actually an upgraded (non-stock) Model Y riding on a prototype suspension and brake upgrades unavailable to the public and the 911 that was beaten was a 2-generation old (8-16 years old) variant. With context that changes everything greatly as well as the interpretation of your original post, so yes, I am less impressed by an upgraded Model Y beating a 10+ year 911 no matter how capable the old 911 was.
As for your post original post, you are right, I didn't read it, because why would I want to read the rest of the post after your track statement, it sounded ridiculous, so yeah, I don't care about the rest, your post lost credibility for me at that point, and was not worth reading in my opinion. I don't have to read it entirely either hence why I used the quote feature to only get the one selection I reacted to and spoke about.
With that I bid you a good night, because I have no time left on stupid arguments like this, and will be happily pressing the ignore button. Hopefully moderators will end up taking down our posts anyways. Enjoy the GLA, Model Y or whatever it is.  |
And why did I put that in the first sentence of that post? To support the fact a relatively cheap SUV CAN be fast very functional in the same time, which you made no attempts to talk about. Instead you try to argue with the fact that it did indeed beat 911's track time, which is silly as I had already provided the link. Then you try to twist that fact by attempting to downplay the importance of 977 generation of 911, which DOES NOT disprove my statement in the first place. No one is saying Model Y is the best track car. I'm simply stating the fact it's more than capable.
So I will restate my point again, if you are in the market to buy a fast SUV either in straight-lines or on road, Model Y is a really good value for that.